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Minimized version - tanquang - 01-09-2025

CentBrowser is built with a lot of new features added. However, not all features are "really useful" and widely used.
Therefore, I hope that, in addition to the 2 default Installer and Portable versions, there will be a "Minimized" version as follows:
  1. Remove "Mouse Gesture" feature.
  2. Remove "Super Drag" feature.
  3. Remove "Fast Save Image" feature.
  4. Remove "Custom CSS" feature.
  5. Remove "Hotkeys" (not Shortcuts) feature.
  6. Retains default Browsing, Bookmarks and Tab Options behavior like Google Chrome (very useful if you want to migrate from Google Chrome to CentBrowser).
Having too many features and changing default behaviors can be useful, but it's generally quite "overwhelming" and difficult to approach for users who are new to or don't need those features (since they're also enabled by default).


RE: Minimized version - QZMTCH - 01-09-2025

(01-09-2025, 10:51 AM)tanquang Wrote: CentBrowser is built with a lot of new features added. However, not all features are "really useful" and widely used.
Therefore, I hope that, in addition to the 2 default Installer and Portable versions, there will be a "Minimized" version as follows:
  1. Remove "Mouse Gesture" feature.
  2. Remove "Super Drag" feature.
  3. Remove "Fast Save Image" feature.
  4. Remove "Custom CSS" feature.
  5. Remove "Hotkeys" (not Shortcuts) feature.
  6. Retains default Browsing, Bookmarks and Tab Options behavior like Google Chrome (very useful if you want to migrate from Google Chrome to CentBrowser).
Having too many features and changing default behaviors can be useful, but it's generally quite "overwhelming" and difficult to approach for users who are new to or don't need those features (since they're also enabled by default).
Why? so that it doesn't differ from regular chromium? take the same ungoogled or supermium or thorium (which you wrote about) why do you need a cent?


RE: Minimized version - badablek - 01-09-2025

(01-09-2025, 10:51 AM)tanquang Wrote: CentBrowser is built with a lot of new features added. However, not all features are "really useful" and widely used.
Therefore, I hope that, in addition to the 2 default Installer and Portable versions, there will be a "Minimized" version as follows:
  1. Remove "Mouse Gesture" feature.
  2. Remove "Super Drag" feature.
  3. Remove "Fast Save Image" feature.
  4. Remove "Custom CSS" feature.
  5. Remove "Hotkeys" (not Shortcuts) feature.
  6. Retains default Browsing, Bookmarks and Tab Options behavior like Google Chrome (very useful if you want to migrate from Google Chrome to CentBrowser).
Having too many features and changing default behaviors can be useful, but it's generally quite "overwhelming" and difficult to approach for users who are new to or don't need those features (since they're also enabled by default).

so you are literally asking to disable all the features that make centbrowser so powerful (reason why users love this browser and keep using it...even outdated)  Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided 
sorry, but this can't be a good idea.

from the eyes of new user : what would be the point of downloading and installing a heavily tweaked browser if he doesn't care about the features it adds by default ?

  1. "no mouse gestures" → Did you ever tried to use it ? I'm using it since MyIE2, more than 20 years ago (which applied as a overlayer of...Internet Explorer !), it's a killer feature. Except if you're on a laptop. Every single person I showed how to use it, can't live without it now ! And if you don't know what mouse gesture is, you will never make mouse gesture  Tongue
  2. "no super drag" → if you don't even know this feature, you won't drag anything with your mouse...
  3. "no fast save image" → you must use ALT to activate it...if you push ALT and click on an image, then you know what you do.
  4. "Custom CSS" feature" → until you copy some custom CSS (which means you perfectly KNOW what you are doing), this feature won't change anything for you !
  5. "Hotkeys" → if you don't know the hotkeys, it would really be bad luck to activate one. And as the configuration panel is crystal clear, you can see (and learn) all the hotkeys...or disable it in one toggle
  6. "Retains default Browsing, Bookmarks and Tab Options behavior like Google Chrome" → you must be kidding for this one, really. Chrome is the worst, specifically on these features (a TAB browser that don't open a new tab BY DEFAULT, seriously ?)

Like QZMTCH already said in a different manner, what is the point in asking for a configuration that annihilates whats makes centbrowser's DNA so unique ? It's like buying a premium model of a car then ask to disable all the premium features...Just use Chrome/Chromium then.

Centbrowser is a game changer by ADDING features, and from my point of view, I never saw a chrome user lost by all these new features...I only saw happy people asking me why they did not change their browser way before.

ps : the "crystal clear" configuration panel even have a search engine. With some keywords, you can find anything you want to toggle off in a second


RE: Minimized version - tanquang - 01-12-2025

(01-09-2025, 01:00 PM)QZMTCH Wrote: Why? so that it doesn't differ from regular chromium? take the same ungoogled or supermium or thorium (which you wrote about) why do you need a cent?
Previously, when Google Chrome was still supported on Windows 7, I had never used CentBrowser, I felt "afraid" of a browser with too many customizations because it was difficult for ordinary users to access - this was the only reason, not because of the "origin" of the developer or the browser like most others.

I only knew CentBrowser because it supported "Fully Portable" so it was often used in winpe/computer rescue BOOTs - where most of the features I just mentioned were almost never used.

Even after Google Chrome was no longer supported on Windows 7, the first thing I thought of was not CentBrowser but Mozilla Firefox. But after using Mozilla Firefox for a while, I continued to return to using Google Chrome 109 simply because Mozilla Firefox also had too many customizations, was heavy and difficult to access.

Until recently, when Bitwarden's passkey feature kept having "abnormal" behavior, after I reported the bug to the developer and received their answer that my browser was too old, I tried using some other Chromium browsers. I use CentBrowser and Supermium and Thorium, I don't claim that I "need" any of them.

The reason I want centbrowser to create a "Minimized" version is because this version will have a pretty similar behavior to other popular browsers, easy to access if the user wants to move between browsers (as I said in #1). And one thing for sure, this version will also be more compact in every way (memory, capacity,...) than the current version.

I feel you are "weird": Why do you always take unrelated content from other topics to talk about in this topic? Is this your hobby?

This topic I did not mention my other topics because they are different, if they are the same, why do I need to separate them into many topics and post in different areas?

Please focus on the main topic.


RE: Minimized version - tanquang - 01-12-2025

(01-09-2025, 03:36 PM)badablek Wrote: so you are literally asking to disable all the features that make centbrowser so powerful (reason why users love this browser and keep using it...even outdated)  Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided 
sorry, but this can't be a good idea.
from the eyes of new user : what would be the point of downloading and installing a heavily tweaked browser if he doesn't care about the features it adds by default ?
  1. "no mouse gestures" → Did you ever tried to use it ? I'm using it since MyIE2, more than 20 years ago (which applied as a overlayer of...Internet Explorer !), it's a killer feature. Except if you're on a laptop. Every single person I showed how to use it, can't live without it now ! And if you don't know what mouse gesture is, you will never make mouse gesture  Tongue
  2. "no super drag" → if you don't even know this feature, you won't drag anything with your mouse...
  3. "no fast save image" → you must use ALT to activate it...if you push ALT and click on an image, then you know what you do.
  4. "Custom CSS" feature" → until you copy some custom CSS (which means you perfectly KNOW what you are doing), this feature won't change anything for you !
  5. "Hotkeys" → if you don't know the hotkeys, it would really be bad luck to activate one. And as the configuration panel is crystal clear, you can see (and learn) all the hotkeys...or disable it in one toggle
  6. "Retains default Browsing, Bookmarks and Tab Options behavior like Google Chrome" → you must be kidding for this one, really. Chrome is the worst, specifically on these features (a TAB browser that don't open a new tab BY DEFAULT, seriously ?)

Like QZMTCH already said in a different manner, what is the point in asking for a configuration that annihilates whats makes centbrowser's DNA so unique ? It's like buying a premium model of a car then ask to disable all the premium features...Just use Chrome/Chromium then.
Centbrowser is a game changer by ADDING features, and from my point of view, I never saw a chrome user lost by all these new features...I only saw happy people asking me why they did not change their browser way before.
ps : the "crystal clear" configuration panel even have a search engine. With some keywords, you can find anything you want to toggle off in a second
Although I did not find any reviews that said this browser is "powerful" as you claim. But I agree with your statement in part: This browser is outdated.

For those using Windows 10 and above, with full support for updates, this is indeed an outdated browser. But for those using Windows 8 and below, it is still "newer" than the last version that Google Chrome offers.

Quote:from the eyes of new user : what would be the point of downloading and installing a heavily tweaked browser if he doesn't care about the features it adds by default ?

I do not agree with this point of view very much, as I responded to QZMTCH above and as a new user: If I had to choose between a compact, easy-to-use browser with simple features that are easily found in many other browsers or a "powerful" browser with countless customizations, I would choose the former. Simply because I do not want to spend too much time learning and understanding the "separate" things. Most users prefer to choose the most general, easy to navigate, and accessible ones rather than having to learn how to use them all over again every time they change browsers.
As for your comments on features I want to remove:
  1. "no mouse gestures" → It's true that I don't know and have never used MyIE2. In the past, I used IE and later, I used Google Chrome. I say this to sound bad, but basically we are not limited to Google or other providers. The only browser product from China that I used before was UC Browser, a few years ago, on a Nokia 2700 phone with a 2G connection when the download speed was a few dozen KB/s but I still only used it when downloading and my main browser at that time was Opera. But later, when Google Chrome appeared, all those browsers became the past. This is probably the common perception of most people in the world, so it is understandable that I do not understand the usefulness of this feature as you do.
  2. "no super drag" → The only drag/drop stuff I use is files, on file hosting sites. Most of the existing actions are useless to me because I'm so used to keyboard shortcuts. And I don't want to break something just by accidentally doing a drag/drop.
  3. "no fast save image" → Right click -> Save as... This is so common when wanting to "download" a photo, I never had to use Alt + click like you said.
  4. "Custom CSS" → There is an extension that does the same thing and is better as it can limit custom changes to specific cases instead of being global like this feature. And as you say, this feature is only useful for experienced people who know what they are doing, so my request to remove it in the "Minimized" (easy-to-use) version is reasonable.
  5. "Hotkeys" → Well I don't know about this feature and don't use it so I don't understand why you are "hyping" it like that. I want to remove Hotkeys, not Shortcuts, and according to the settings, this Hotkeys feature only has 2 functions (or 3 - if you consider the silence... option is an function) and I don't see any useful functions.
  6. "Retains default Browsing, Bookmarks and Tab Options behavior like Google Chrome" →  No, this is exactly what 99.99...9% of other browsers do. For example, respecting the target attribute of the a tag (this comes from IE), opening links/searches on the current tab if it's a "new tab", opening bookmarks/homepage/search results,... in the current tab,... these are common behaviors that all other browsers have been doing - except CentBrowser if you don't change it back in the settings.
Quote:the "crystal clear" configuration panel even have a search engine. With some keywords, you can find anything you want to toggle off in a second
If you open chrome://prefs-internals you will know that there are a lot of "mysterious" things that do not appear and cannot be found in "the "crystal clear" configuration panel" you mentioned.
Of course, in chrome://prefs-internals are just object names and you have to figure it out yourself. The most obvious example is ie_core_host_dict, you will not know what this list of domains is and where to customize it because it does not exist in "the "crystal clear" configuration panel" that you mentioned.

Okay, back to the main point, my purpose of this thread is not to remove these features from the next release. I simply suggest that in addition to the current full release, there will be a version with the features I mentioned removed, even if it is only an x86 version since it is just a "Minimized" version anyway.


RE: Minimized version - QZMTCH - 01-12-2025

(Yesterday, 09:26 AM)tanquang Wrote: Previously, when Google Chrome was still supported on Windows 7, I had never used CentBrowser, I felt "afraid" of a browser with too many customizations because it was difficult for ordinary users to access - this was the only reason, not because of the "origin" of the developer or the browser like most others.

I only knew CentBrowser because it supported "Fully Portable" so it was often used in winpe/computer rescue BOOTs - where most of the features I just mentioned were almost never used.

Even after Google Chrome was no longer supported on Windows 7, the first thing I thought of was not CentBrowser but Mozilla Firefox. But after using Mozilla Firefox for a while, I continued to return to using Google Chrome 109 simply because Mozilla Firefox also had too many customizations, was heavy and difficult to access.

Until recently, when Bitwarden's passkey feature kept having "abnormal" behavior, after I reported the bug to the developer and received their answer that my browser was too old, I tried using some other Chromium browsers. I use CentBrowser and Supermium and Thorium, I don't claim that I "need" any of them.

The reason I want centbrowser to create a "Minimized" version is because this version will have a pretty similar behavior to other popular browsers, easy to access if the user wants to move between browsers (as I said in #1). And one thing for sure, this version will also be more compact in every way (memory, capacity,...) than the current version.

I feel you are "weird": Why do you always take unrelated content from other topics to talk about in this topic? Is this your hobby?

This topic I did not mention my other topics because they are different, if they are the same, why do I need to separate them into many topics and post in different areas?

Please focus on the main topic.
What are these big texts for?
You do understand that there is no point in this version when there is supermium and thorium which you are already using?

(Yesterday, 10:43 AM)tanquang Wrote: As for your comments on features I want to remove:
  1. "no mouse gestures" → It's true that I don't know and have never used MyIE2. In the past, I used IE and later, I used Google Chrome. I say this to sound bad, but basically we are not limited to Google or other providers. The only browser product from China that I used before was UC Browser, a few years ago, on a Nokia 2700 phone with a 2G connection when the download speed was a few dozen KB/s but I still only used it when downloading and my main browser at that time was Opera. But later, when Google Chrome appeared, all those browsers became the past. This is probably the common perception of most people in the world, so it is understandable that I do not understand the usefulness of this feature as you do.
  2. "no super drag" → The only drag/drop stuff I use is files, on file hosting sites. Most of the existing actions are useless to me because I'm so used to keyboard shortcuts. And I don't want to break something just by accidentally doing a drag/drop.
  3. "no fast save image" → Right click -> Save as... This is so common when wanting to "download" a photo, I never had to use Alt + click like you said.
  4. "Custom CSS" → There is an extension that does the same thing and is better as it can limit custom changes to specific cases instead of being global like this feature. And as you say, this feature is only useful for experienced people who know what they are doing, so my request to remove it in the "Minimized" (easy-to-use) version is reasonable.
  5. "Hotkeys" → Well I don't know about this feature and don't use it so I don't understand why you are "hyping" it like that. I want to remove Hotkeys, not Shortcuts, and according to the settings, this Hotkeys feature only has 2 functions (or 3 - if you consider the silence... option is an function) and I don't see any useful functions.
  6. "Retains default Browsing, Bookmarks and Tab Options behavior like Google Chrome" →  No, this is exactly what 99.99...9% of other browsers do. For example, respecting the target attribute of the a tag (this comes from IE), opening links/searches on the current tab if it's a "new tab", opening bookmarks/homepage/search results,... in the current tab,... these are common behaviors that all other browsers have been doing - except CentBrowser if you don't change it back in the settings.
all these functions can be disabled in the settings and you do not see them and they do not bother you in any way